I think there should be increased Jury Duty fees for long trials over 4 weeks. In California unfortunately its $15, I would raise it to $25 and if its a prolonged trial it would be $40 a day.

If a trial has disturbing evidence, there should be an option of 1 therapist session for free to talk over the issue without discussing the issues of the trial.

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Matthew Munson wrote to All <=-

I think there should be increased Jury Duty fees for long trials over 4 weeks. In California unfortunately its $15, I would raise it to $25 and
if its a prolonged trial it would be $40 a day.

Why not minimum wage?


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Re: Re: Jury Duty
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Matthew Munson on Fri Oct 16 2026 07:33:58

I think there should be increased Jury Duty fees for long trials over 4 weeks. In California unfortunately its
$15, I would raise it to $25 and
if its a prolonged trial it would be $40 a day.

Why not minimum wage?

It should really be the wages one is unable to earn due to being on jury duty.

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On 10/16/2026 7:33 AM, POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to Matthew Munson:

Matthew Munson wrote to All <=-

I think there should be increased Jury Duty fees for long trials over 4 weeks. In California unfortunately its $15, I would raise it to $25 and if its a prolonged trial it would be $40 a day.

Why not minimum wage?

That would be nice, but I am trying to do something that would not bust budgets. Most states would not
pay anything higher than $50 a day. My proposal is $25 a day after the 1st day, and $40 a day after the
second week or during deliberations whatever comes first.

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Bryn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

if its a prolonged trial it would be $40 a day.

Why not minimum wage?

It should really be the wages one is unable to earn due to being on
jury duty.

It's incredibly annoying. I've been in one jury trial and been called
several times. Two of the counties pay for mileage to the courthouse -
but not back home. What local government genius thought that made sense?



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It's incredibly annoying. I've been in one jury trial and been called several times. Two of the counties pay for mileage to the courthouse -
but not back home. What local government genius thought that made sense?

One judge I was in her courthouse said 75% of the people ignore their
jury duty summons.

I think there should be some low cost prizes such as 2 people each
quarter year win a pair of regional parks passes for honoring their jury
duty summons.


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Re: Re: Jury Duty
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bryn on Sat Oct 17 2026 09:18 am

Bryn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

if its a prolonged trial it would be $40 a day.

Why not minimum wage?

It should really be the wages one is unable to earn due to being on
jury duty.

It's incredibly annoying. I've been in one jury trial and been called
several times. Two of the counties pay for mileage to the courthouse -
but not back home. What local government genius thought that made sense?

you're lucky you even got that. when i was in a jury trial i got paid 12 bucks a day. we sat in a tiny small HOT room and this guy had a horrible cold and was coughing on everyone. we had to pay for our own parking. i had to go down And put money into the parking meter.

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Re: Re: Jury Duty
By: Matthew Munson to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat Oct 17 2026 10:27 am

One judge I was in her courthouse said 75% of the people ignore their jury duty summons.

I recently got a jury summons, and this feels like a somewhat awkward time since I just started a new job a few months ago (which has felt a bit stressful to me), and I'm moving just before my jury date too. I'm not moving very far away though (within driving distance). I submitted a request to be excused, saying I just started a new job recently (and "new job hardship" was one of the available reasons), and that I'm moving to a different county, but my request to be excused was denied.

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I recently got a jury summons, and this feels like a somewhat awkward
time since I just started a new job a few months ago (which has felt a
bit stressful to me), and I'm moving just before my jury date too. I'm
not moving very far away though (within driving distance). I submitted a request to be excused, saying I just started a new job recently (and
"new job hardship" was one of the available reasons), and that I'm
moving to a different county, but my request to be excused was denied.

Or just say if I dont keep my job, then I'll be a drain to society.

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Re: Re: Jury Duty
By: Nightfox to Matthew Munson on Sat Oct 17 2026 12:16 pm

one of the available reasons), and that I'm moving to a different county, bu my request to be excused was denied.

I've never found it too difficult to be unsavory to one or the other counsel. "My landlord is a cop", said without clarification, with a subconscious expression of contempt should have the defense counsel sending you home... :)

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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Bryn <=-

It's incredibly annoying. I've been in one jury trial and been called several times. Two of the counties pay for mileage to the courthouse -
but not back home. What local government genius thought that made
sense?

Compromise. One guy wanted to pay milage, another didn't. So they compromised on half way.


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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Bryn <=-

It's incredibly annoying. I've been in one jury trial and been called several times. Two of the counties pay for mileage to the courthouse -
but not back home. What local government genius thought that made
sense?

Compromise. One guy wanted to pay milage, another didn't. So they compromised on half way.

I did Jury Duty last year. In Australia, your employer still has to pay you for those days you are serving.

Is that the case in the US, or does it vary state to state, or what?


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Re: Re: Jury Duty
By: Boraxman to Dr. What on Mon Oct 19 2026 08:53 am

Compromise. One guy wanted to pay milage, another didn't. So they compromised on half way.

I did Jury Duty last year. In Australia, your employer still has to pay you for those days you are serving.

Is that the case in the US, or does it vary state to state, or what?

it depends on the employer but the ones i worked for payed you when you were Gone for jury duty. So you were basically making more money.

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Boraxman wrote to Dr. What <=-

I did Jury Duty last year. In Australia, your employer still has to
pay you for those days you are serving.

Is that the case in the US, or does it vary state to state, or what?

It wildly varies. The only big rule is that your employer must let you serve on the jury (i.e. he can't fire you over that).

But I've heard conflicting information about pay. I've been salary for so long that I don't pay attention to the the hourly rules.

One rule that I heard for hourlys was that the employer still had to pay you, but subtracted the amount you got for Jury Duty.
Another rule that I heard was that the employer didn't pay you for your time at Jury Duty.

I think it's more up to the business. There are rules around treating salary employees like hourly that most companies don't want to deal with - so they just pay the normal salary.
If you were a burger flipper at McDonalds, they probably aren't going to pay you for hours that you aren't flipping burgers.


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Re: Re: Jury Duty
By: Boraxman to Dr. What on Mon Oct 19 2026 08:53:00

I did Jury Duty last year. In Australia, your employer still has to pay you for those days you are serving.
Is that the case in the US, or does it vary state to state, or what?

Like most things in the US, we insist on taking states rights, federalism, and home rule to the point where this not only varies by state, but some states let counties figure it out for themselves -\_ ^ ^ _/-

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Boraxman wrote to Dr. What <=-

I did Jury Duty last year. In Australia, your employer still has to
pay you for those days you are serving.

Is that the case in the US, or does it vary state to state, or what?

It wildly varies. The only big rule is that your employer must let you serve on the jury (i.e. he can't fire you over that).

But I've heard conflicting information about pay. I've been salary for
so long that I don't pay attention to the the hourly rules.

One rule that I heard for hourlys was that the employer still had to
pay you, but subtracted the amount you got for Jury Duty.
Another rule that I heard was that the employer didn't pay you for your time at Jury Duty.

I think it's more up to the business. There are rules around treating salary employees like hourly that most companies don't want to deal
with - so they just pay the normal salary.
If you were a burger flipper at McDonalds, they probably aren't going
to pay you for hours that you aren't flipping burgers.

I don't see how flipping burgers is different to any other job.

I'm a salaried employer white collar professional.

Every hour I'm not at work, is one hour of work that doesn't get done. Its no different to flipping burgers in that sense.

The difference would be whether your contract is full time or casual. I presume a lot of McDonalds employees are casual?

In Australia, McDonalds employees may be part time, casual or full time.


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Re: Re: Jury Duty
By: Boraxman to Dr. What on Wed Oct 21 2026 09:07 am

The difference would be whether your contract is full time or casual. I presume a lot of McDonalds employees are casual?

In Australia, McDonalds employees may be part time, casual or full time.

What is "casual" employment? I'm not aware of that type of employment in the US; usually it's full-time or part-time (and there's also hourly vs. salaried - and salaried employees are usually full-time).

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Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-

In Australia, McDonalds employees may be part time, casual or full time.

What is "casual" employment? I'm not aware of that type of employment
in the US; usually it's full-time or part-time (and there's also hourly vs. salaried - and salaried employees are usually full-time).

From what I've seen, "casual" is "as needed". We don't see it much in the U.S. because the younger generation have better employment opportunities, and we don't have much work that is "as needed".


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Boraxman wrote to Dr. What <=-

In Australia, McDonalds employees may be part time, casual or full
time.

What's a casual employee in this context? We have full-time and
part-time in the USA, not heard that term used as a job classification.



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Re: Re: Jury Duty
By: Boraxman to Dr. What on
Wed Oct 21 2026 09:07 am

The difference would be whether your contract is full time or casual. I presume a lot of McDonalds employees are casual?

In Australia, McDonalds employees may be part time, casual or full time.

What is "casual" employment? I'm not aware of that type of employment
in the US; usually it's full-time or part-time (and there's also hourly vs. salaried - and salaried employees are usually full-time).

Casual means that you're paid on a hourly rate, and the hours are determined on the fly, i.e., as needed. Full time and part time are fixed hours, with part time simply being fewer hours than 38 per week.

At the site I work at, on the production floor we have both full timers and casuals. The full timers work 38 hours a week, as per the contract. The casuals are asked to come in whenever we need them, and they are paid for the hours they work.


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Hey poindexter!

On Wed, Oct 21 2026 06:19:12 -0700, you wrote:

What's a casual employee in this context? We have full-time and
part-time in the USA, not heard that term used as a job classification.

The only thing I could think of that would fit in that category would be retirees still working "as needed", which they're usually capped at like 750 hours a year, or something like that. Still, though.. here it would probably just be classified as part time.

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Re: Re: Jury Duty
By: Boraxman to Dr. What on Wed Oct 21 2026 09:07 am

done. Its no different to flipping burgers in that sense.

The difference would be whether your contract is full time or casual.
I presume a lot of McDonalds employees are casual?

In Australia, McDonalds employees may be part time, casual or full
time.

looks like you dont get paid for jury duty service if you work at mcdonalds. you get unpaid leave.


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Re: Re: Jury Duty
By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Thu Oct 22 2026 08:51 am

Casual means that you're paid on a hourly rate, and the hours are determined on the fly, i.e., as needed. Full time and part time are fixed hours, with part time simply being fewer hours than 38 per week.

At the site I work at, on the production floor we have both full timers and casuals. The full timers work 38 hours a week, as per the contract. The casuals are asked to come in whenever we need them, and they are paid for the hours they work.

Ah, interesting. In the US, I'm pretty sure that would fall under part-time, as part-time isn't necessarily fixed hours. My first job was at a fast food place, and most of the time I was part-time and my hours varied - our schedules were determined weekly, and often it seemed as needed, though I usually had at least a certain number of hours.

Nightfox

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