Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?
Nightfox

I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal. Also I use a bunch of the free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

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By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Sat Jan 18 2025 11:17 am

I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal.

A couple years ago, I heard there's a newer broadcast standard, ATSC 3.0, which has been rolling out in the US. A couple of the main goals are to allow over-the-air TV broadcasts in 4K and improvements to the signal to allow better reception in places that have a lot of trees & buildings & such. It looks like the main networks in my area broadcast in both ATSC 3.0 and the older standard; my HDHomerun Flex 4K tuner is able to pick up the ATSC 3.0 broadcasts and it seems like they do tend to get better reception for me. I often like to watch Jeopardy (on ABC), and for some reason I tend to have trouble getting the regular ABC broadcast station, but ABC's ATSC 3.0 channel tends to come in fairly well for me.

Also I use a bunch of the
free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

I have a few of those too - Plex TV, Roku, Pluto, and I recently signed up for Tubi. I don't use them very often, but perhaps I should use them more, as there's lots of stuff to watch with those. I probably watch enough TV as it is though..

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I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising prices.So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).Secondary services I use are: netflix, prime videoDropped some others to save money, but of
course they are coming out with new stuff I want to see :-( ---

I do watch a lot of Youtube and subscribe to YT premium - not the TV part, just premium YT w/o ads.

I used to get Netflix, and still buy a month here and there when some series or show I want to watch comes out - I'll use that month to binge download anything I'm interested in and cancel.

For everything else, I rely on my .torrent stack. Its made up of several applications;
a VPN, qBitTorrent, Jellyfin, Jellyseerr, Prowlarr, Radarr, Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

Those are a VPN, .torrent downloader, Streaming App, Library Scanner/Suggests movies/TV, .torrent Searcher, Movie Downloader, TV Downloader, Mustic Downloader and a Home Screen.

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[...] Jellyseerr, Prowlarr, Radarr,
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Are those named in homage to things piratey?


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[...] Jellyseerr, Prowlarr, Radarr,
Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

Are those named in homage to things piratey?

Dude - I never thought of that, but I sure hope so... hmmmm.
Gonna research that a bit!



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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Sat Jan 18 2025 11:17 am

Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?
Nightfox

I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal. Also I use a bunch of the free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

indoor antennas failed for me. Maybe I should try external, i just cannot climb under the house to run cable; and wife would have a "cow" if she saw or found out I climbed the tower. LOL

I probably need to look at using some of the free services. Only thing is, you cannot pause them (so back to oldtime tv), I love DVR. That's the other reason I went to youtube tv for their DVR and easy of use. I don't have to watch it when it comes on, but on my schedule.

I have all three of the services you mention; but don't use them reguarlly.

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Nightfox wrote to Cozmo <=-

I have a few of those too - Plex TV, Roku, Pluto, and I recently signed
up for Tubi. I don't use them very often, but perhaps I should use
them more, as there's lots of stuff to watch with those. I probably
watch enough TV as it is though..

If Roku supported IPTV, I'd stick with IPTV for terrestrial channels,
pick one streaming service and explore all of the free/ad supported
content on Roku - there's a ton of it.

Amazon Fire sticks support IPTV, but I don't know about their other
channels.

If I ever need to cut my expenses way back, that's where I'd start.



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paulie420 wrote to Amessyroom <=-

For everything else, I rely on my .torrent stack. Its made up of
several applications; a VPN, qBitTorrent, Jellyfin, Jellyseerr,
Prowlarr, Radarr, Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

I need to check out the Arrs - I'm doing it all manually now, finding
out what I want to see, then going to tracker sites. Once the content is
here, I'm using DLNA to stream to Roku devices.



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For everything else, I rely on my .torrent stack. Its made up of several applications; a VPN, qBitTorrent, Jellyfin, Jellyseerr, Prowlarr, Radarr, Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

I need to check out the Arrs - I'm doing it all manually now, finding
out what I want to see, then going to tracker sites. Once the content is here, I'm using DLNA to stream to Roku devices.

Many times I prefer searching w/ prowlarr and not the other automated arr searchers.

However, I do make use of many of them..



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OTA is compressed video as well, but uses more bandwidth per channel and
thus supports real-time encoding at higher (perceived) fidelity. I think

Did that become true with the conversion to digital, or was it even true
before that?


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I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal. Also I use a bunch of the free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

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Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
Have a good day cozmo.

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Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years
ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now
we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
Have a good day cozmo.

Pluto and roku TV are pretty decent. Cable was more of a convienance more than anything but, definitely not worth the price. I love Crime TV on my local OTA channels.

Have a good one!

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By: Cozmo to Rixter on Sat Feb 22 2025 11:00 am

Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now > Ri> we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother > Ri> speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
Have a good day cozmo.

Pluto and roku TV are pretty decent. Cable was more of a convienance more th > anything but, definitely not worth the price. I love Crime TV on my local OT > channels.

Have a good one!

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We use Pluto because it came with the LG TV we bought. We had the TV for a yearbefore we connected it to the internet. LOL. Pluto seems easy to understand. Itreminds me of a kind of tuner. Lots of good one show only channels. I remember
they had a Star Trek Classic channel that ran the old Star Trek Shows 24/7 and we left it there for weeks. That is kind of nice.
Have a great weekend Cozmo!
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By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Sat Jan 18 2025 11:17 am

Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming is much more wholesome. Where I live now, they are just starting to run cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

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Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming
is much more wholesome. Where I live now, they are just starting to run cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except
maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

I don't think Cable is worth the price anymore at least for me. There are so many free options out there to use. Hopefully the lines will reach you soon and you'll be able to stream and use the free services without worring about data.

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Bogomips wrote to Cozmo <=-

Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming
is much more wholesome.

I was hoping to get local news and PBS on an indoor HDTV antenna, but
all I get was CBS, lots of religious and Spanish-language programming,
and some interesting retro sitcom channels.

With a Roku, the antenna input is called "live TV" and includes a ton
of streaming channels. If I was on a serious budget, I could get by
watching free streaming with basic internet service quite well.

Where I live now, they are just starting to run
cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except
maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast.
Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

300-600 megabits/second and a 1.2 terabyte/month would be an adjustment
from hotspot internet...

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Cozmo to Bogomips on Wed Feb 26 2025 08:31 am

Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming is much more wholesome. Where I live now, they are just starting to run cable
lines
up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except
maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that
I
am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

I don't think Cable is worth the price anymore at least for me. There are so many free
options out there to use. Hopefully the lines will reach you soon and you'll be able
to
stream and use the free services without worring about data.

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Also, with cable a portion of your bill is automatically given to certain networks, even if you don't watch them or agree with their progamming.

I think my wife will be more interested in all the streaming. I'm used to the small selection of old shows and pbs that are offered OTA.

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By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bogomips on Wed Feb 26 2025 06:06 am

Bogomips wrote to Cozmo <=-

Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming is much more wholesome.

I was hoping to get local news and PBS on an indoor HDTV antenna, but
all I get was CBS, lots of religious and Spanish-language programming,
and some interesting retro sitcom channels.

Sometimes I find that I have to scan for channels a few times.

With a Roku, the antenna input is called "live TV" and includes a ton
of streaming channels. If I was on a serious budget, I could get by
watching free streaming with basic internet service quite well.

You had me at "serious budget". Day after Christmas I was in the hospital and will not
longer be working. I have Disability Insurance through work for the next 4 years. That should get me to Full Retirement age.

It's just another speed bump down the highway of life.

Where I live now, they are just starting to run
cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

300-600 megabits/second and a 1.2 terabyte/month would be an adjustment
from hotspot internet...

Suprisingly, I would get by with the hotspot except it ran out too fast this month with all the paperwork i've been having to download. So now I'm using my wifes, and it's in the other room and I'm atleast able to get on Vert with two bars

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By: Bogomips to Cozmo on Wed Feb 26 2025 01:55 pm

Also, with cable a portion of your bill is automatically given to certain networks, even if you don't watch them or agree with their progamming.

The "Sports Programming Fee" is the worst - apparently Comcast charges this even if you don't have a sports package.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Nightfox to Mortar on Mon Apr 14 2025 10:03:06

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but do you mean you got a cable TV and internet package from the cable company in 1990?

Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 02:10 pm

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but do you mean you got a cable TV and internet
package from the cable company in 1990?

Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

Including cable internet? It would be surprising that cable internet would have been available in 1990.. I don't remember hearing of that back then.

Nightfox

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By: Nightfox to Mortar on Tue Apr 15 2025 12:59:10

Including cable internet?

Can't speak for the early '80s, but it did exist when I got it in '90.

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By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 11:13 pm

Including cable internet?

Can't speak for the early '80s, but it did exist when I got it in '90.

Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I thought it was all dialup for home users at the time. I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

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Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

Including cable internet? It would be surprising that cable internet would have been available in 1990.. I don't remember hearing of that back then.

In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly
means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet
even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

I had dial-up internet then, and internet at work, and it was all text -- email, ftp, telnet, usenet news, and gopher sites.


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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Apr 16 2025 09:05 am

Including cable internet? It would be surprising that cable internet would
have been available in 1990.. I don't remember hearing of that back then.

In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

I had dial-up internet then, and internet at work, and it was all text -- email, ftp, telnet, usenet news, and gopher sites.

I wasn't aware of the internet until 1995. In 1990, I knew of services like AOL, Prodigy, CompuServe etc. though.

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On 16 Apr 2025, Dumas Walker said the following...

In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

it's a bit disingenuous.. like saying 2.5Gbit internet was available in the 90's (it was.. to ISPs)

in truth (adjusted for inflation, 1995) just the cablemodems for service back then were >$1000

and (again for inflation) 1993? $11000 for the modem

it took @Home in 1997 to make cablemodem available in a meaningful way.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 2025 12:50 pm

In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly
means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet
even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not
really yet a big thing then.

it's a bit disingenuous.. like saying 2.5Gbit internet was available in the 90's (it was.. to ISPs)

in truth (adjusted for inflation, 1995) just the cablemodems for service back then were >$1000

and (again for inflation) 1993? $11000 for the modem

it took @Home in 1997 to make cablemodem available in a meaningful way.

Yeah, from what I remember, I think I first started hearing about broadband cable internet in 1999, though we didn't get broadnand service until 2001 or early 2002.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 02:10 pm

Yup. Cable had been available in my
area since 1980-81.

There was cable here with dial-up
upstream in 1990 (and probably prior),
but bi-directional didn't arrive until
quite some years later.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 11:13 pm

Including cable internet?

Can't speak for the early '80s, but it did exist when I got it in '90.

Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I thought it was all dialup for home users at the time. I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

There wasn't (broadband for home internet) until at LEAST the very late
90's, in the real world.

I think the OP's memory may be experiencing some "bit-rot"...



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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 2025 12:50 pm

it took @Home in 1997 to make cablemodem available in a meaningful way.

@Home was my first cable Internet provider. I remember it being 640Kbps downstream (which was a huge upgrade over ISDN I was using before that), I don't remember what the upstream was.
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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Nightfox to Mortar on Wed Apr 16 2025 07:29:16

I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

Turns out my memory is faulty. Comcast--my ISP--did't start offerig broadband until 12/96. Sorry about that.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Apr 16 2025 09:05:00

...unless he possibly means IDSN service...

You mean ISDN, and no, just a synapse lapse.

The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

Actually, it wasn't a thing at all. The first widely used WYSIWYG browser was Mosaic in 1993.

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By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 2025 08:52:05

I wasn't aware of the internet until 1995. In 1990, I knew of services like AOL, Prodigy, CompuServe etc. though.

I tried all of 'em at one time or another. I stayed with AOHell the longest--maybe a year? BBSes were my mainstay until Comcast offered broadband.

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By: phigan to Mortar on Wed Apr 16 2025 13:24:29

There was cable here with dial-up...

I was referrig to standard TV cable at that point.

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The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

Actually, it wasn't a thing at all. The first widely used WYSIWYG browser was
Mosaic in 1993.

I didn't think it was but couldn't remember for sure which year it was I
first tried out Mosaic. I knew it was between 1993 and 1997, because of
where I was living, but that was about it. ;)

The version I used came from Quarterdeck with a DesqView/QEMM upgrade.


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Nightfox wrote to Mortar <=-

Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I thought it was all dialup for home users at the time. I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

I remember people talking in 1993 about shell accounts at netcom, being
able to bounce around the world on one phone call. About that time, my
company got a 56k leased line from UC Berkeley. I had a shell account,
tried playing with tools like SLiRP to connect Windows to the net, then
had ISDN to my office, which had a T1. DSL wasn't until 2000 or so, and
then it was something like 384k/128k.

25 years later and I'm pricing out symmetric gig networking for my
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By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Apr 17 2025 08:18 am

Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I

I remember people talking in 1993 about shell accounts at netcom, being able to bounce around the world on one phone call. About that time, my company got a 56k leased line from UC Berkeley. I had a shell account, tried playing with tools like SLiRP to connect Windows to the net, then

Just before I heard about the internet, I do remember people on some local BBSes in my area talking about having FTP access at those BBSes and that you could get to a shell and access FTP sites, download some files, then download the files from the BBS. I remember reading some instructions and getting on a couple of FTP sites (I don't remember where I found them), even though I didn't really know what these FTP sites were.

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Dumas Walker wrote to MORTAR <=-

The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

Actually, it wasn't a thing at all. The first widely used WYSIWYG browser

was

Mosaic in 1993.

I didn't think it was but couldn't remember for sure which year it was
I first tried out Mosaic. I knew it was between 1993 and 1997, because
of where I was living, but that was about it. ;)

What I remember as my first browser was called NetScape, probably
1994/95 I think. Still on dial-up at that time.



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By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Apr 17 2025 08:18:23

I remember people talking in 1993 about shell accounts at netcom, being
able to bounce around the world on one phone call.

I was introduced to the Net while I was a Computer Lab Assistant in college. The lab Coordinator said they had a shell account and showed me how to dial in using an a Tektronix 4051 and an acoustic-coupled modem. I was instantly hooked. I spent every free moment online that I could.

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By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Thu Apr 17 2025 01:06 pm

What I remember as my first browser was called NetScape, probably 1994/95 I think. Still on dial-up at that time.

Same here (and I think it was spelled as Netscape, with lowercase 's').

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I didn't think it was but couldn't remember for sure which year it was
I first tried out Mosaic. I knew it was between 1993 and 1997, because of where I was living, but that was about it. ;)

What I remember as my first browser was called NetScape, probably
1994/95 I think. Still on dial-up at that time.

Same, re: dial-up. ;)


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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to phigan on Wed Apr 16 2025 08:17 pm

I was referrig to standard TV cable at that point.

Makes sense.

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By: Mortar to All on Sun Apr 13 2025 10:11 pm

As for streaming, I use a number of services, but for old TV show and movies, I like
Tubi. I also have Crackle, but don't use it much. I've tried a few times, but they
never seemed to have what I was looking for, and now that you have to pay for it, I

We finally got cable on the street I live on and it was hooked up yesterday. For the last 10 years we have had only OTA channels, which I don't mind at all. One of the newer tv's we have is wifi ready and once we activated the wifi onto the tv
there were hundreds of free movies and channels. "120 channels, and nothing on". The best part was I was able to utilize the Antennae <sp> too. I usually only watch MeTV and Create.

I was leaning towards a Roku instead of a FIrestick for the other tv.

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By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 02:10 pm

Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

Growing up in the '70s we could see the cable tv tower from our livingroom, but it wasn't available to our address.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Bogomips to Mortar on Fri May 02 2025 07:14 am

I was leaning towards a Roku instead of a FIrestick for the other tv.

There's one thing Roku has over the other options. You can get a remote (or app) that you plug headphones into and can then hear the audio of whatever you're watching. You can't install your own apps on it, though, only from their own "store". FireTV and GoogleTV and the Android based stuff beats Roku on all other functionality, IMO. Walmart has somewhat decent Android boxes, Onn brand, for under $20.

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By: phigan to Bogomips on Fri May 02 2025 11:34 am

I was leaning towards a Roku instead of a FIrestick for the other tv.

There's one thing Roku has over the other options. You can get a remote (or app) that you plug headphones into and can then hear the audio of whatever you're watching. You can't install your own apps on it, though, only from their own "store". FireTV and GoogleTV and the Android based stuff beats Roku on all other functionality, IMO. Walmart has somewhat decent Android boxes, Onn brand, for under $20.

I have a Roku with a remote like that, though I haven't plugged any headphones into it.

I believe some streaming devices also support bluetooth headphones. On one of my TVs, I have a Nvidia Shield Pro, which is Android-based, and I agree, I think it's more functional than Roku. One thing that's cool about the Nvidia Shield is that RetroArch (the console emulator) is supported on it. I've installed that with some ROMs, and I have an 8BitDo bluetooth controller I use with it sometimes to play old console games on it.

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By: Bogomips to Mortar on Fri May 02 2025 07:17 am

Growing up in the '70s we could see the cable tv tower from our livingroom, but it wasn't available to our address.

In San Francisco, they built a huge television tower called Sutro tower that you could see from most anywhere in the bay area - if you couldn't see it, you could just point your antenna the same way everyone else's was pointed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutro_Tower

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By: phigan to Bogomips on Fri May 02 2025 11:34 am

There's one thing Roku has over the other options. You can get a remote (or app) that you plug headphones into and can then hear the audio of whatever you're watching. You can't install your own apps on it, though, only from their own "store". FireTV and GoogleTV and the Android based stuff beats Rok on all other functionality, IMO. Walmart has somewhat decent Android boxes,

Apparently, Firesticks support IPTV, which sounds like a great way to get basic channels over the internet. I don't have many local stations available over the air, so I'm thinking about this should I get rid of cable and go with AT&T Fiber.

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By: Nightfox to phigan on Fri May 02 2025 12:53 pm

I have a Roku with a remote like that, though I haven't plugged any headphones into it.

With the roku app, you can also play audio through your phone's bluetooth.

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By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bogomips on Fri May 02 2025 02:58 pm

In San Francisco, they built a huge television tower called Sutro tower that you could see from most anywhere in the bay area - if you couldn't see it, you could just point your antenna the same way everyone else's was pointed.

Recently I was thinking about the motion of the Earth and wondered how that could affect the reception of TV and radio broadcasts. The broadcasts go straight out from the antenna, but since the Earth is contasntly moving, surely nobody can really be in the direct path of the signal. But I suppose since the broadcast signals travel at the speed of light, any difference in position due to the Earth's motion is probably miniscule by the time the signal reaches you.

I wonder what the broadcast signals would look/sound like from a point in space though.. As the broadcast source would be constantly moving and rotating, I'd imagine there would be some sort of affect (doppler or similar?)..

Nightfox

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By: phigan to Bogomips on Fri May 02 2025 11:34 am

the Android based stuff beats Roku on all other functionality, IMO. Walmart has
somewhat
decent Android boxes, Onn brand, for under $20.

Thanks, I have to go to walmart this morning anyway. Not looking forward to it. EBT card weekend, and I get annoyed looking at all the buggys full of garbage food.

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By: Nightfox to phigan on Fri May 02 2025 12:53 pm

Shield is that RetroArch (the console emulator) is supported on it. I've installed that with some ROMs, and I have an 8BitDo bluetooth controller I u

There's a really cool Kodi add-on for games. Not sure if it's works or not, but you can use it to pick any game and it will download it for you and run it in an emulator. It can also be told to just go out and fetch a random game.

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By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 02 2025 04:15 pm

though.. As the broadcast source would be constantly moving and rotating, I imagine there would be some sort of affect (doppler or similar?)..

It is still a thing with radio as with sound, but from what I understand it is more prominent with higher frequency ranges.

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By: phigan to Bogomips on Fri May 02 2025 11:34 am

the Android based stuff beats Roku on all other functionality, IMO. Walmart has
somewhat
decent Android boxes, Onn brand, for under $20.

Found the Onn brand today on sale for $12. Am very pleased with it so far. What I can't stream I can always just switcht the input to my OTA anntenae <sp>.
Thanks for the heads up.

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By: Bogomips to phigan on Sat May 03 2025 11:14 am

Found the Onn brand today on sale for $12. Am very pleased with it so far. W I can't stream I can always just switcht the input to my OTA anntenae <sp>.

That's awesome. Is that for the stick or the little box?

Definitely install Kodi and check out some of the add-ons for it, like the Pluto add-on that shows up like IPTV channels under the TV "tab".

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By: Mortar to Nightfox on
Tue Apr 15 2025 02:10 pm

Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

Growing up in the '70s we could see the cable tv tower from our livingroom, but it wasn't available to our address.

Growing up in the 70's in a town of 500, cable was something we
knew existed, but that was it. :-) The few people in town (literally
could count them on one hand) that had a dish would get TBS and
such. :-)

If we went to my aunt's house in the next town, my sister and I
would go into the seldem used 'sitting room' and watch cable,
including the local cable access that was a clock in a room
with a camera that would oscilate betweeen it on one end and
one on the other end with 'advertisement' papers/flyers in
between that you could see as it went back and forth. :-)



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By: phigan to Nightfox on Sat May 03 2025 07:41:51

There's a really cool Kodi add-on for games. Not sure if
it's works or not...

Then how do you know it's "really cool"?

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By: phigan to Bogomips on Sat May 03 2025 02:00 pm

That's awesome. Is that for the stick or the little box?

Definitely install Kodi and check out some of the add-ons for it, like the Pluto add-on that shows up like IPTV channels under the TV "tab".

I got the stick model and Pluto already d/l, will check kodi tomorrow. Im not used to all those choices. only had like 12 channels with the OTA to choose from.j
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By: Mortar to phigan on Sun May 04 2025 12:25 pm

for games. Not sure if
it's works or not...

Then how do you know it's "really
cool"?

Typod and missed the word "still" in
there. Not sure if it STILL works.

I've used it a few times. Not much of a
gamer, though.

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