Re: Then, once you paid
By: Nightfox to Accession on Sat Nov 22 2025 08:05 am

It's been many years since I used a dedicated desktop email client on my PC that downloads email locally. I tend to access my email (usually Gmail) from multiple devices: My home PC, my smartphone, work PC, etc., and I feel like it's easiest to just use Gmail's web interface when I'm on a PC; for my smartphone, I use the dedicated Gmail app.

I find using email clients with IMAP support is just much better when you accss your emails from multiple locations.

Webmail is a resource and bandwidth hog, and the interfaces usually suck. The best ones are usually barely tolerable. I don't know if Gmail's web interface these days allows you to view the message's source code or the email headers, but I think it used not to be the case. That is such a basic feature I regard any interface with such functionality to be utterly broken.


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Re: Re: Then, once you paid
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 08:01 am

I'm thinking of hosting my own mail again, but outbound SMTP is a pain
these days.

This is something people keeps saying. My experience is that as long as you are not sending automated emails, your user count is low, and your IP belongs to a reputable ISP assignation, you are unlikely to face serious issues.

But yeah, you need to do a lot of domain management bullshit and get your DMARC/DKIM/SPF right, or a lot of providers won't take email from you. This kind of sucks because, on paper, those things are only helpful for multi-node SMTP systems (ie. if you set xxxx@yourdomain.com messages from more than une server) but lots of providers have insisted in it becoming an industry standard, and now you have to set those up even if you have a misserable single user server under your bed. I definitively count it as not a roadblock, but I count it as yet another reason to set Google's offices on fire.


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Re: Re: Then, once you paid
By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Nov 26 2025 05:38 am

standard, and now you have to set those up even if you have a misserable sin user server under your bed. I definitively count it as not a roadblock, but count it as yet another reason to set Google's offices on fire.

100% agreed. I do have all my DNS crud set up, but since I'm using a VPS in some random datacenter and in some random IP range, I still get some of my emails sent to people's spam folders (mostly on Gmail, I think). It used to be that Microsoft servers would block me, but they also used to block tilde.club emails.. They might've loosened up their blockers since then.

To test your email/webmail provider, you could try sending yourself an email from one of the BBSes with network mail set up.

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