This is a different kind of release video for me:
https://youtu.be/2c2eLGVkxW0
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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: Digital Man to All on Fri Feb 27 2026 04:24 am

This is a different kind of release video for me: https://youtu.be/2c2eLGVkxW0
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DM, I grabbed the latest upgrade and installed it. Seemed to work until I actually tried to login remotely. At which point the Synchronet Control Panel just exists, no errors, just exists. This is on Windows 10 32 bit. I copied my previous version back into my sbbs folder and placed the previous version's .dll back into my Windows/System32 folder and all works again.

I'll test some more and see if I can find any logs that might give me a clue as to what is happening. Thought I would pass this on.

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Just installed the 3.21c upgrade. I was running 3.21a just fine. After installation, the Control Panel just exits after a few seconds and I get the following error in the Windows 10 Event viewer:

Running: Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 64Bit - 21H2

Faulting application name: sbbsctrl.exe, version: 3.21.2.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Faulting module name: MSVCP140.dll, version: 14.0.24215.1, time stamp: 0x57bfd592
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0001c559
Faulting process id: 0x2360
Faulting application start time: 0x01dca82ad1b1d291
Faulting application path: C:\SBBS\exec\sbbsctrl.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\MSVCP140.dll
Report Id: 2d37aa23-020f-4999-bfb2-9f11057ca06c

Gonna have to put the other version back.
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On 27 Feb 2026, Digital Man said the following...

This is a different kind of release video for me: https://youtu.be/2c2eLGVkxW0

cool stuff. could accidentally pick up non-Sync/BBS subscribers riding around like that. i follow one guy "SoejiMax" and that's all he does.

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Re: Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: fusion to Digital Man on Fri Feb 27 2026 04:45 pm

On 27 Feb 2026, Digital Man said the following...

This is a different kind of release video for me: https://youtu.be/2c2eLGVkxW0

cool stuff. could accidentally pick up non-Sync/BBS subscribers

dunno, seems kind of weird. I don't get the why he did it.
also -500 pts for not wearing his cabbie hat!


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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: Biggieb to Digital Man on Fri Feb 27 2026 01:03 pm

Just installed the 3.21c upgrade. I was running 3.21a just fine. After installation, the Control Panel just exits after a few seconds and I get the following error in the Windows 10 Event viewer:

Running: Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 64Bit - 21H2

Faulting application name: sbbsctrl.exe, version: 3.21.2.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Faulting module name: MSVCP140.dll, version: 14.0.24215.1, time stamp: 0x57bfd592
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0001c559
Faulting process id: 0x2360
Faulting application start time: 0x01dca82ad1b1d291
Faulting application path: C:\SBBS\exec\sbbsctrl.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\MSVCP140.dll
Report Id: 2d37aa23-020f-4999-bfb2-9f11057ca06c

Gonna have to put the other version back.

Try installing this Microsoft package to update your MS C++ Runtime: https://aka.ms/vc14/vc_redist.x86.exe

For more details:
https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1089
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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: Lonewolf to Digital Man on Fri Feb 27 2026 07:42 am

DM, I grabbed the latest upgrade and installed it. Seemed to work until I actually tried to login remotely. At which point the Synchronet Control Panel just exists, no errors, just exists. This is on Windows 10 32 bit. I copied my previous version back into my sbbs folder and placed the previous version's .dll back into my Windows/System32 folder and all works again.

I'll test some more and see if I can find any logs that might give me a clue as to what is happening. Thought I would pass this on.

The problem has not been root-caused, but it apparently does go away after upgrading to the latest the Microsoft C++ runtime library:
https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1089
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That fixed it!!! Thanks a bunch.

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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: Digital Man to Biggieb on Fri Feb 27 2026 05:42 pm

Try installing this Microsoft package to update your MS C++ Runtime: https://aka.ms/vc14/vc_redist.x86.exe

i said this before. there is a pack out there that is very popular that has all the runtimes in one installer. it's especially popular with gamers.
It installs runtimes that don't play well with synchronet. i had to help 2 people fix it.


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There is a tiny issue with the User Editor on the Control Panel now. "Error reading user file". ../data/user/user.tab

I can still telnet in and run ;uedit and it works fine.

The User List in the Control Panel works.

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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: BiggieB to MRO on Fri Feb 27 2026 10:31 pm

There is a tiny issue with the User Editor on the Control Panel now. "Error reading user file". ../data/user/user.tab

Download this file and replace your exec/useredit.exe with it: http://synchro.net/Synchronet/useredit.exe
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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: BiggieB to MRO on Fri Feb 27 2026 10:31 pm

There is a tiny issue with the User Editor on the Control Panel now.
"Error reading user file". ../data/user/user.tab

I can still telnet in and run ;uedit and it works fine.

The User List in the Control Panel works.

What are all those guys sitting in #synchronet doing?!
Nelgin! I thought you were so smart!
#synchronet fanboys should be alpha testing.

So many errors in this official release.
Meanwhile rob swindell is riding around on his e-bike shooting youtube vids. sad!

0 errors in mro's official releases.

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That did the trick. Thanks again.

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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Feb 27 2026 08:42 pm

i said this before. there is a pack out there that is very popular that has all the runtimes in one installer. it's especially popular with gamers.
It installs runtimes that don't play well with synchronet. i had to help 2 people fix it.

Yes you did!!! Thanks!

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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Sat Feb 28 2026 08:09 pm

Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Feb 27 2026 08:42 pm

i said this before. there is a pack out there that is very popular that BF> > has all the runtimes in one installer. it's especially popular with
gamers.
It installs runtimes that don't play well with synchronet. i had to help 2 people fix it.

Yes you did!!! Thanks!

Well even my current ones barfed with this release.
I used the ones in the .rtf

then i had to change the usereditor executable. and now it bombs a few secs after sbbsctrl is loaded. i think rob spent too much time playing on his Moped.


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MRO wrote to Bf2k+ <=-

Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Sat Feb 28 2026 08:09 pm

Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Feb 27 2026 08:42 pm

i said this before. there is a pack out there that is very popular

that

has all the runtimes in one installer. it's especially popular with gamers.
It installs runtimes that don't play well with synchronet. i had to help 2 people fix it.

Yes you did!!! Thanks!

Well even my current ones barfed with this release.
I used the ones in the .rtf

then i had to change the usereditor executable. and now it bombs a few secs after sbbsctrl is loaded. i think rob spent too much time
playing on his Moped.

The fix for this has been discussed in numerous places, numerous times.

Complete n00bs have already fixed this, I would think a self-proclaimed "30-year BBS expert" would have no trouble with it. Derp.

Another thing - you claim to use Linux... more BS from a BS'er.



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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Mon Mar 02 2026 02:45 am

Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video

From Gamgee@PALANTIR to MRO on Mon Mar 2 08:09:44 2026
MRO wrote to Bf2k+ <=-

then i had to change the usereditor executable. and now it bombs a few secs >After sbbsctrl is loaded. I think rob spent too much time
Playing on his Moped.

The fix for this has been discussed in numerous places, numerous times.

Complete n00bs have already fixed this, I would think a self-proclaimed >"30-year BBS expert" would have no trouble with it. Derp.

I only spent a few mins on it; i didn't have much time.
All i did was do a proper update (removed any msvc* distro files, installed the ones linked in the install .rtf), then experimented by adding sbbsexec files in.

I have a heavily customized bbs. it's probably something to do with events or Maybe even my customized text.dat

I'll work on it later. I was just doing my part by reporting issues.
it doesnt seem like enough people looked at this release before it was put in the public and that's sad. there's a lot of yes men around who could have caught things for rob. He does a lot of support but the users of the bbs software should do their part.

Another thing - you claim to use Linux... More BS from a BS'er.

i do run linux. I rent a server from ovh.I had this bbs here running on linux, but it went off of it to Windows 10 32bit on a vm on proxmox. Less bullshit.

Https://i.imgur.com/M7HfiDM.png


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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to gam-gay on Mon Mar 02 2026 02:24 pm

I only spent a few mins on it; i didn't have much time.
All i did was do a proper update (removed any msvc* distro files, installed the ones linked in the install .rtf), then experimented by adding sbbsexec files in.

The newest MSVC++ runtime (not linked in the .rtf, because we didn't know it existed and was needed at the time the document was written) is now linked at
https://wiki.synchro.net/install:win

The issue has also been addressed (worked-around) in the code base since then, so v3.21d (the current development builds, available in the nightly-built sbbs_dev.zip) is another solution.
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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Mar 02 2026 03:06 pm

Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to gam-gay on Mon Mar 02 2026 02:24 pm

I only spent a few mins on it; i didn't have much time.
All i did was do a proper update (removed any msvc* distro files, installed the ones linked in the install .rtf), then experimented by adding sbbsexec files in.

The newest MSVC++ runtime (not linked in the .rtf, because we didn't know DI> it existed and was needed at the time the document was written) is now
linked at https://wiki.synchro.net/install:win

The issue has also been addressed (worked-around) in the code base since then, so v3.21d (the current development builds, available in the nightly-built sbbs_dev.zip) is another solution.

Okay thanks, i'll give it a try.
whats strange is the bbs was dying after about 5 seconds, so i thought it was Some event causing it.

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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Mar 03 2026 02:22 am

Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Mar 02 2026 03:06 pm

Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to gam-gay on Mon Mar 02 2026 02:24 pm

I only spent a few mins on it; i didn't have much time.
All i did was do a proper update (removed any msvc* distro files,
installed the ones linked in the install .rtf), then experimented by
adding sbbsexec files in.

The newest MSVC++ runtime (not linked in the .rtf, because we didn't know
it existed and was needed at the time the document was written) is
now
linked at https://wiki.synchro.net/install:win

The issue has also been addressed (worked-around) in the code base since then, so v3.21d (the current development builds, available in the nightly-built sbbs_dev.zip) is another solution.

Okay thanks, i'll give it a try.
whats strange is the bbs was dying after about 5 seconds, so i thought it was > > Some event causing it.

Okay grabbing and running
Https://aka.ms/vc14/vc_redist.x86.exe helped. I even had to reboot.

Oh one more question. I have rg pipe codes in various mods and text files.
I have extra attribute codes turned on but it's still displaying the pipe code instead of the color in this version. I had a few other people ask me about this.

Is this intentional?




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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Mar 03 2026 05:27 am

Oh one more question. I have rg pipe codes in various mods and text files. I have extra attribute codes turned on but it's still displaying the pipe code instead of the color in this version. I had a few other people ask me about this.

Is this intentional?

I think you're experiencing this change: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/da9485cf0e62b204e13eae897b0ba62

which is also described in the v321_new.txt file:
o Separate global support for "extra attribute codes" from per sub-board opts
o New menu: System->Extra Attribute Codes controls extra attribute
support in display files (e.g. menus)
o Each configured sub-board can have each extra attribute type toggled on/off

If you have extra attribute codes turned on in SCFG->System->Extra Attribute Codes, then those codes are supported in all display files. I just tested this functionality with RG color codes and it works as expected.

That setting does *not* enable extra attribute code output from scripts (Baja or JavaScript). JavaScripts will need to explicitly use the relevant P_* mode flags (e.g. P_RENEGADE) to enable extra attribute codes in output functions (e.g. console.print()), if needed. Public/shared Baja scripts really should never have been using extra attributes codes in the first place since they would only work as expected with a specific sysop configuration. Unfortunately, such Baja script will need to be translated to use Ctrl-A codes for attribute control.
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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Mar 03 2026 05:36 am

Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Mar 03 2026 05:27 am

Oh one more question. I have rg pipe codes in various mods and text files. I have extra attribute codes turned on but it's still displaying the pipe code instead of the color in this version. I had a few other people ask me about this.

Is this intentional?

I think you're experiencing this change: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/da9485cf0e62b204e13eae897b0ba62 >
which is also described in the v321_new.txt file:
o Separate global support for "extra attribute codes" from per sub-board opts > o New menu: System->Extra Attribute Codes controls extra attribute
support in display files (e.g. menus)
o Each configured sub-board can have each extra attribute type toggled on/off >
If you have extra attribute codes turned on in SCFG->System->Extra Attribute Codes, then those codes are supported in all display files. I just tested this functionality with RG color codes and it works as expected.

That setting does *not* enable extra attribute code output from scripts (Baja > or JavaScript). JavaScripts will need to explicitly use the relevant P_* mode > flags (e.g. P_RENEGADE) to enable extra attribute codes in output functions
(e.g. console.print()), if needed. Public/shared Baja scripts really should never have been using extra attributes codes in the first place since they would only work as expected with a specific sysop configuration. Unfortunately, such Baja script will need to be translated to use Ctrl-A codes for attribute control.

Agh that sucks. There's a lot of baja mods that have rg color codes.
i'm an old rg/iniquity sysop so they were just easier than doing synchronet Color codes. but it's not hard for me to do a converter.

You should just remove the support for other color codes entirely.


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Re: Synchronet v3.21 Release Introduction video
By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Mar 03 2026 02:01 pm

You should just remove the support for other color codes entirely.

Nah.
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